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Post by yeto on May 10, 2020 14:18:54 GMT 1
Would it create any type of problem moving files from sub-folder to sub-folder in the Rhythms folder and also creating new sub-folders in the Rhythms folder? I would like to try and organize the rhythms a little differently to align more with my work flow.
I guess what I am asking is in the "Rhythm Sectiion Dialog" popup window how do I create more folders under "Rhythm Providers" and "copy" preexisting style files into these new folders?
C:\Users\xxx\JJazzLab\Rhythms
Thank you, yeto
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Post by Jerome on May 11, 2020 15:10:35 GMT 1
No problem. You can modify and organize the User Rhythm Directory as you want. JJazzLab scans up to 2 levels of subdirectories. Subdirectories whose names start with a "_" are not scanned (useful sometimes to speed up starting time).
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Post by yeto on May 11, 2020 19:04:43 GMT 1
No problem. You can modify and organize the User Rhythm Directory as you want. JJazzLab scans up to 2 levels of subdirectories. Subdirectories whose names start with a "_" are not scanned (useful sometimes to speed up starting time). Would I modify the directory inside the software or would I use Windows Explorer? Thank you, yeto
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Post by Jerome on May 11, 2020 19:32:09 GMT 1
Windows Explorer
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Post by riku on Aug 5, 2020 14:07:06 GMT 1
I'm posting a follow-up to this existing topic since it's so closely related:
Does it cause problems if I were to also rename some rhythms to better reflect what I personally associate them with? For example hinting at a specific song gives an instant idea of what the rhythm is like, while terms like "jazz" or "ballad" are quite generic and can still mean quite many things; The names are currently right, but so general that I end up browsing through a lot of rhythms because I don't really get a clear idea of what's what.
The possible problem that I fear would be that an existing file created with JJazzLab would no longer know what rhythm to use if the rhythm file got renamed. But does that actually happen? Normally on Macs, when you have a shortcut of a file and move the original, the shortcut still knows where the moved original is. Similarly, renaming of the original does not automatically break such bonds. But since this is software, I don't know what sort of axioms it relies on so I don't know whether or not this principle applies.
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Post by Jerome on Aug 5, 2020 16:19:40 GMT 1
You figured out yourself: you can rename files as you want in general. You'll need to restart JJazzLab.
But if a renamed style is used in a .sng or referred to as favorites for example, JJazzLab will not be able to find it. Not a big deal, instead JJazzLab will pick up a default rhythm. Then you can reselect the appropriate (renamed) style, save the .sng and you're done.
If ever you have many .sng files in this situation, you could directly do a "search & replace" of the style file name in the .sng files (.sng are XML files, this is plain text).
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Post by riku on Aug 5, 2020 17:14:39 GMT 1
Okay I see. Well that's good to know! I think now that I'm still new to JJazzLab and I don't have too many files, I should create a list of what styles I assigned to each one. Then, go through the process of renaming my styles, taking note of what the new names of those already known styles come to be. Fixing those in XML is great, I won't have to open all the songs one by one!
The problem of just renaming and having existing songs revert their styles to the default would be the fact that I wouldn't remember what the style used to be, and I'd have to manually redo the work of having found the suitable style. And it wouldn't have occurred to me that it would affect the favorites too.
So yeah, I better do this non-destructively and back up some information first!
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Post by Rockman on Aug 6, 2020 17:54:19 GMT 1
I tried adding more folders to the already existing default rhythms folder but the software did not read any of my new files. After this I changed the default rhythms folder to a place on my hard drive where my new styles were stored. That worked fine and added the new files to the rhythm list but it locked me to only 4/4 rhythms and did not even allow to change the time signature or to add rhythms with other time signatures to the project. I changed the rhythm folder to default again to see if it will allow other time signatures, but sadly it didn't work and my song was still locked to 4/4 time! Is this a known issue? I am using the 64 bit application.
Tomorrow I will try a fresh reinstall to see if adding new files to the default folder works and if i can get other time signatures back for my songs.
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Post by Jerome on Aug 7, 2020 8:55:33 GMT 1
@ rockman I recommand reading this.In the song structure editor the rhythm selection dialog shows rhythms only for the time signature of the rhythm part (which is the time signature of its parent section).
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Post by Rockman on Aug 8, 2020 14:45:39 GMT 1
Thanks for replying ... I re read the link you posted and noticed that in the song rhythm select dialog box... "select a 4/4 rhythm" is displayed ... that's exactly what I keep seeing. It's Text and not a drop down to allow changing it to 3/4, 6/8 etc even when I am trying to make a new song. So my first question is when I am making a new song why isn't a choice for changing time signature showing up?
On other places at the website its written that one can mix various time signatures for various sections of a song. So my second question is how are we supposed to do that if the time signature of the parent section carries to the ones that follow it?
Lastly, my third and final question is why aren't my new style files read by jjazzlab even if they are in a subfolder or directly in the default directory folder? I always have to change the default directory to my subfolder for my files to be read and if I do that the software works fine and shows everything. But when i close and relaunch the software then all the default styles are gone and only styles from my subfolder show up. Thanks for your help!
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Post by Jerome on Aug 8, 2020 21:54:49 GMT 1
@ rockman I think you missed the logic between the 2 editors, the chord leadsheet contains the chord symbols and the sections, and the song structure contains the song parts which are used to arrange the sections of the chord leadsheet. Please consult the online doc. This page should help. Also you'll find in the Songs folder on this forum some examples with multiple time-signatures : Pat Metheny's Song for Bilbao and C. Corea Spain.
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Post by techdawg on Dec 31, 2022 21:51:40 GMT 1
@ rockman Also you'll find in the Songs folder on this forum some examples with multiple time-signatures : Pat Metheny's Song for Bilbao and C. Corea Spain. I don't have those songs. How come?
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Post by Pifre ô Solehl on Jan 6, 2023 10:33:34 GMT 1
Songs, search , in songssharing there are several pages
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Post by techdawg on Jan 7, 2023 17:35:41 GMT 1
Songs, search , in songssharing there are several pages
Merci. Je n'avais pas réalisé qu'il y avait plusieurs pages.
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